In a new, and very intimate interview, Jada Pinkett-Smith dished on her unconditional love for Tupac. The late rapper who most know as 2Pac was more than just an artist, and leave it up to Jada to always let the that known! She’s going in depth about her friend Tupac Amaru Shakur in this hour long interview with Howard Stern. From being poor, to fallouts, to success, to passion, Jada didn’t hold back one thing.
Keep in mind that this audio interview was roughly an hour and thirty minutes. Not sure who has time like that to sit and listen, so I’ve taken out the key points that stood out (to me, of course). Get into it below.
Where Jada met Tupac and who he really was:
“I met Tupac at Baltimroe School For The Arts. We went to high school together.He was a revolutionary without a revolution if that makes any kind of sense. And that kind of energy just transferred to a whole other thing.”
On whether or not she thinks Tupac was in love with her:
“It’s so funny, because now being older, I have more of an understanding of what that was between us because, you know when you have two young people who have very strong feelings, but there’s no physical chemistry between us at all. And it wasn’t even just for me! It was him too. There was a time when I was like, ‘Just kiss me, Let’s just see how this goes.” And when I tell you, it had to be the more disgusting kiss for us both.”
On if her relationship with Tupac was platonic:
“The only way I can put it is, the higher power just did not want that. Because I feel as though, if Pac and I had any kind of sexual chemistry, we might’ve killed each other because we were both so passionate. And you know, we love deeply. It was hard enough just with us being friends. We had a very volatile relationship.”
Jada on recognizing his talent:
“It was his poetry, it was his personality. I had never in my life met a person like Pac. He had so much charisma and he was poor. When I met Pac, he owned two pairs of pants and two sweaters. And that’s it.”
On whether or not she was shocked when he became famous + What it was like for them both to come out of Baltimore successful:
“Absolutely not. I knew that was going to happen. It’s crazy. And he used to tell me all the time, ‘Jada, you’re a superstar. You’re a superstar.’ He didn’t say it about himself, but he would say it about me. And he went to Oakland, up North, and things started jumping off for him. It really happened for us both at the same time.”
“There were a lot of things that transpired once he went to jail. It was really once he came out that he changed quite a bit, which was understandable. Jail was a very difficult experience for him. And of course, we were on two sides of the spectrum. Pac and I have always had very intense conversations, arguments. And if we disagree with each other, we disagree hardcore. And we had a very hardcore disagreement.
On the disagreement that stopped their friendship:
“I just wasn’t in agreement with the direction he was taking. And I just told him that it was a destructive direction, a very scary direction. And he felt as though I had changed, I got Hollywood, I had gone soft. And looking back now, I totally understand where Pac was because at that particular point in time, that mentality was part of his survival for that moment. And it was actually a mentality he started to come out of before he was murdered
On if she felt guilty for not being in touch at the time of his death (over their disagreement)
“You know, I don’t think I was guilty as much as I felt, just sadness, for not having the opportunity to just tell him that I loved him. But I know he knew that, because it wasn’t the first time that we had had a bad argument and had stopped speaking and all that. That was kind of a constant in our relationship. So I didn’t really look at it as a reason to feel guilty. But it definitely taught me a lesson, which is, life is too short. Do not let disagreements stand in between you and people that you love and care about.”
Howard Stern: I can tell you’re really emotional about him, I mean, you’re crying. When you think of him you have tears in your eyes.
Jada: Yeah, you know, I love him.